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Josh Figatner's avatar

I appreciate Bill's honesty and ability to separate from the MAGA zeitgeist, but his article was pretty fluffy and obvious: 'Mainstream MAGA is off the rails- oh no!'. Absent from his soul-searching is what he would DO about it- is he going to vote 3rd party? Stop voting? Become more involved in resisting Trump and the downward R spiral?

Kristol also has a warmongering past that is difficult to atone for. This is his waning era, Neoconservatism has been all but snuffed out, replaced by its grotesque cousin, MAGA. His influence is now just flickers in the smoky night- essentially nonexistent. Ouch.

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Jerry Roberts's avatar

As a co-founder of The Bulwark, he deserves much credit for the consistent stream of high-quality, fact-based Never-Trump content their ever-growing team produces. Some xlnt podcasts and newsletters. Highly recommend.

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Josh Figatner's avatar

True- while I don't respect his opinions much, I respect the person and his long impact on the national discourse. I also appreciate that he and publication have the "classic" decency to engage in ideas, good-faith debate, and avoid name-calling and instigating violence. A low bar that many red-hot MAGA candidates can't seem to clear.

In this case- Anti-MAGA- I welcome Bill, Mitt, Mike and Liz to the (temporary) big tent.

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Mary Schlesinger's avatar

This warning by Kristol is spot on. I deeply admire his integrity in casting off pseudo Republicans.

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Geoffrey Schneider's avatar

What a sad & pathetic commentary. At least he can't be called RINO ant longer...He's a Democrat, and they can have him.

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Jerry Roberts's avatar

so nothing specific or substantive to add, just name-calling?

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